Evaluation of New ARGO 8x8 750HDi in California
Friday, March 19, 2010
New Model Received
Currently 4/5 Stars
Product ownership: Less than 1 month
Purchased from: Points West Argo
We have received the first 2 Avenger 750 HDi units. I was very pleased with the way the new Admiral transmission works. The skid steering seems to almost blend into standard ATV steering in the High Range mode. There is no noticeable power loss when making minor turns. In low range, the vehicle seems to make noticeably sharper turns. Overall, the steering is dramatically improved over the original Avenger transmission.
Amazing improvement in steering and performance
Currently 5/5 Stars
Product ownership: Less than 1 year
Purchased from: Points West Argo
I had my first opportunity to take out the new Argo Avenger HDi last weekend. The machine was stock with the exception of the installation of Argo's newest rubber track set. IF you believe like I do that the transmission is everything in an AATV, then the HDi is a very different machine than Argo has ever offered before. Outwardly, you really only see the addition of a couple more brake discs, and the absence of the idler chains. The BIG difference is in the way the HDi steers. Unlike the Avenger and Avenger EFI, the HDi steers like an ATV. There is not that irritating engine lug and downshift every time you make a turning adjustment. You can be cruising along and when you turn, you hear a faint high pitched whine and the vehicle turns with no change in engine rpm or pitch. Granted, if you really turn sharp, there is an obvious change in the sound and speed of the vehicle, but when you are cruising along, just making minor corrections; it makes NO Difference in the performance.
Now let's talk about the low range. That is a very different story. Traditionally, I would always operate an Avenger or EFI in low range in new snow. The HDi actually operated better in High range in almost every condition. There is obviously more torque in low, but the power loss in turning is very noticeable in low range. Almost every time the snow got deep or I encountered a hill and I shifted to low, I stopped and shifted back to High and got better performance. One time I encountered a hill that was steep and the tracks were still hooked up. I actually ran out of power and the machine stopped and the belt slipped. It would not climb the hill and it would not spin the tracks. I shifted it into low and it very easily went on up the hill. Once up, I shifted back to high and went on up the trail. All in all, I think that High range is much more usable and provides enough power and torque for 95% of everything we did with it. Situations where I will need to use Low range will be rare. When you think about it, that is how most 4x4 vehicles operate. High range will do most everything until you get in a real tough situation.
Another big difference is in how the machine reacts to differences in weight distribution and/or tire pressure differentials side to side. In the Avenger and EFI, if the vehicle was pulling one way or the other due to tire pressure or weight distribution, you would loose a lot of power and momentum every time you would make a correction. Last year with an EFI, I would check tire pressure and weight distribution every time I went out because it made such a huge difference in the performance. With the HDi, you can make any corrections you want, and there is no loss of performance.
In summary, this is the best improvement in the Argo EVER!
Sorry to see it go!
Currently 5/5 Stars
Product ownership: A year or longer
Not purchased from: Points West Argo
The 2010 Argo Avenger HDi that I have been running around Sierra County ice fishing with, has been sold. It left yesterday for San Diego and Points South and a new life hunting ducks that speak Spanish. After almost 40 hours and over 200 miles of running it on every snow condition there has been this winter, I thought I would share my final thoughts.
The new HDi is truly the best Argo ever. With the exception of a couple of simple fit and finish problems, the machine performed flawlessly. We did everything from running on groomed snowmobile trails to breaking trail through 3 feet of new snow. We ran on thin ice, fell in, floated, and easily returned to shore. We ran on 7 different frozen lakes and caught hundreds of trout. We mounted a Magma BBQ to the hitch and barbecued trout as we pulled them out of the water. What an incredible experience! We spent Christmas Day, New Years Day and Super Bowl Sunday parked on beautiful, frozen mountain lakes ice fishing, barbecuing and often getting sunburn.
I want to thank my good friends Dan and Susan Cross, Tracy Cross and Dempsey O'Neal for going along on these wonderful trips. I also want to thank my wife Susan. She loves this crazy Argo Ice Fishing thing almost as much as I do.
The season is not over yet. We have put together a new Avenger EFI to take us through the rest of the season. I will do come comparison between the EFI and the HDi as the winter winds up.
Gotta Go! We have an Ice Fishing Derby Tomorrow morning. Can't Wait!